It looks as though, finally, Israel’s incursion into the Gaza Strip is over. A ceasefire has been called and seems to be holding, with Israeli troops reportedly pulling out of the Palestine-controlled area.

But the latest flare-up between the two countries has left 1000 Palestinians dead, not all of which are going to be members of Hamas or people who would launch rocket attacks at Israel. In fact, over 30 of the victims are children.

This video shows Gavin Esler talking to Israeli spokesman, Mark Regev, about the invasion and whether he is proud of Israel’s actions. Regev responds by claiming that Hamas were in fact responsible for many of the Palestinians deaths, planting explosives and using civilians as a human shield.

Esler is left gobsmacked by the comment but Regev remains resolute in his belief. It’s clear Hamas have used civilian neighborhoods to their advantage but the bombs that killed those innocent people were Israeli, and Regev is wrong to claim otherwise.